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Title: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: Hydrogen on June 18, 2009, 10:34:44 PM
Great wheel concept I found while surfing the Tube


[youtube]hiqsE3PtG9M[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: RoboManiacz on June 19, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
Very nice concept for offroad stuff, but sucks that it is so slow. Makes it unusable for normal surfaces :(
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: Ro-Bot-X on June 19, 2009, 03:41:21 PM
I have played with Lego 3 star wheels and they work fine going straight but it's so hard to turn. This design has the wheels at the tip of the triangle fixed in place and acts more like legs than wheels, but still it's hard to turn.
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: HyperNerd on July 19, 2009, 02:50:46 PM
I remember the lego spybots a couple of years back. The blue one had these wheels!
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: Joker94 on July 21, 2009, 06:00:39 AM
the wheels looked as if they were bending a substantual amount. But the over all design is pretty cool ;D
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: SmAsH on July 21, 2009, 06:17:41 AM
thats part of the design, not stress if thats what you were thinking?
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: Joker94 on July 22, 2009, 05:24:52 AM
oh, got you thanks smash. ;D
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: sonictj on July 25, 2009, 11:48:02 PM
My group's RC robot for school had a similar design.  It used what we called daisy wheels in order to traverse 2x4 obstacles.  The robot had to take a load of ping pong balls and dispense them in a bucket.  The design was great, because it was very simple.  I just had to ram the bot's ping pong hopper into the scdoring bucket to dispense the balls.  The problem was that we were told the bucket would be affixed to the floor.  At the competition they changed the rules to where moving the bucket was a 30 second penalty.  Without the penalty we would have gotten second.

[youtube]J0VpVLMELjE[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: Admin on July 28, 2009, 12:33:48 PM
That bobbing motion is a large waste of energy, and converts to damaging vibration in the robot at high speeds.

My carpet monkey robot does the same thing, but uses springs to smooth out the bumping, while storing energy, and has hooks to climb stuff ;D
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: wil.hamilton on July 28, 2009, 08:24:14 PM
reminds me of rhex, although not nearly as effective.
for those of you who haven't seen rhex, here's a link: http://www.bostondynamics.com/robot_rhex.html
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: jamort on July 28, 2009, 11:08:04 PM
tracks can achieve the same thing more efficienly and faster... Though this is a cool looking design I dont think it serves its puspose quite as good as it should...
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: Admin on July 29, 2009, 07:28:47 AM
tracks can achieve the same thing more efficienly and faster... Though this is a cool looking design I dont think it serves its puspose quite as good as it should...
Actually, tracks are the least efficient of any design ;D


Rhex is more efficient than the Loper, but the legs have to do a lot of stop/start motions and has structural tuning problems (it badly bounces on hard surfaces).

I've seen quite a lot of Loper type robot wheels - remember whegs? :P
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: jamort on July 29, 2009, 11:03:33 AM
wow didnt know that actually...       
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: ericthered on July 29, 2009, 09:33:39 PM
Seems to have problems with precision steering. If there maybe a second driving system that could quickly be activated for turning such as have soleinoids push up the lopers wheels and have four regular foam wheels for fast streering and driving on flat surfaces that could make the system better suited for higher speeds
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: jamort on July 29, 2009, 09:49:19 PM
the problem with steering is just as in walking bots which this is basically but a little different
Title: Re: The Loper ( awesome wheel design)
Post by: ladythug on August 07, 2010, 10:27:08 AM
hey! i have a question about loper robot? we will doing loper robot as our thesis project..then we will be having a title defense first..do u have documentations or any thing that we can browse for us to have an idea how will start it.. i hope u dont mind ..tnx a head..hope u will reply..godbless!