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General Misc => Misc => Topic started by: Fredrik Andersson on December 28, 2007, 01:49:46 AM

Title: Yay! The forum is back online again!
Post by: Fredrik Andersson on December 28, 2007, 01:49:46 AM
I need to thank you Admin for putting so much effort into this site, even on your vacation! You are definitely the best admin I've ever been in contact with, the one burning most for his community.

Also, didn't get a chance before, so Happy Holidays everyone! :D
Title: Re: Yay! The forum is back online again!
Post by: SomeSaba on December 28, 2007, 01:53:05 AM
Thank you admin! <3
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Post by: Mega on December 28, 2007, 02:02:36 AM
Thumbs up for Admin!
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Post by: Admin on December 28, 2007, 07:52:17 AM
 :D

once I know for sure that everything is working, I'll make a system wide announcement to get everyone back

let me know if you guys have any problems or see anything not working

(oh and the youtube button doesn't work yet, having trouble with that still)
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Post by: Mega on December 28, 2007, 08:18:58 AM
The only things I noticed so far are the youtube button and the avator image had disappeared (I had to re-add this).
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Post by: david_or_johnny on December 28, 2007, 10:06:32 AM
Got a new server?
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Post by: HDL_CinC_Dragon on December 28, 2007, 10:08:58 AM
three cheers for admin :)
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Post by: Admin on December 28, 2007, 10:47:57 AM
hmmmm the forum isn't sending out reply emails to me . . . anyone getting them?
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Post by: ed1380 on December 28, 2007, 11:17:41 AM
WOOT go admin

you da man  8)
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Post by: Mega on December 28, 2007, 11:36:22 AM
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hmmmm the forum isn't sending out reply emails to me . . . anyone getting them?
I just got the first one, 15 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Yay! The forum is back online again!
Post by: Admin on December 28, 2007, 11:47:11 AM
Im confused now . . . I just got one from the forum . . . but didn't get any others including from this topic . . . I can't seem to send myself an email to my robots@[sor].com address . . . yet I got one from someone else . . . Let me know if anyone else notices this, so I can narrow down the cause(s) . . .

I guess I got a lot of work ahead of me . . .
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Post by: Trumpkin on December 28, 2007, 05:53:56 PM
I'm sooo happy!  ;D
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Post by: Rebelgium on December 28, 2007, 06:40:42 PM
Aah feels good to be able to post in the forum again  :D
The downtime gave me more time to study for my exams though... :P

I completely understand the crappyness of the situation admin (atleast i think so) , My brother has had the same thing several times >:(. (not this host though)
Damn hosts that delete your site, without even taking a frigging backup, and without even a notice !! Because the site uses too much bandwith...
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Post by: HDL_CinC_Dragon on December 28, 2007, 11:13:15 PM
I couldnt send you an email to the robots@[sor].com address either admin, while the forums were down. I havnt tried since theyve been back up... should I?
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Post by: Admin on December 29, 2007, 12:49:47 AM
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I couldnt send you an email to the robots@[sor].com address either admin, while the forums were down. I havnt tried since theyve been back up... should I?
yes please! I had to re-enable the email forwarding after the site move, so you probably emailed me before then.

I'm having serious issues getting the youtube button back . . . it keeps giving me the 'Some of the files the package manager needs to modify are not writable' warning but not telling me which files to chmod/create . . .
If anyone wants to help and knows a little xml, have a look here and tell me what files need changing:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=197280.0

When I made the port over, file locations got all mixed up, but not sure which ones . . . and not all my files were backed up to the most recent versions :-\

Im also still working on getting Members Tutorials working . . . I reinstalled all the software, but haven't uploaded the database yet . . .

bunch of little things fixed too . . .

hmmm its 2am . . . I need to sleep now . . .
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Post by: Asellith on December 29, 2007, 11:54:31 PM
Alright I can get my forum fix again. How I have missed the forum! Thanks Admin! now where did I put that post about wifi positions I have needed to review for the last few days :)

Johnny B
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Post by: creedcradle on December 30, 2007, 12:48:14 AM
SOR is back and the Robot Power is Back....

but Admin youtube clips are missing... ???
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Post by: Rebelgium on December 30, 2007, 09:25:26 AM

but Admin youtube clips are missing... ???

Yes, we know. Admin is working on it. :)
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Post by: Admin on December 30, 2007, 02:09:56 PM
After spending like 7 hours on the problem, I ended up just learning how to do xml and php to reverse engineer the code and manually reprogram all the files needed to get youtube vids working again.

In short, youtube vids now work.

Only like a million more things left to solve . . .  :'(

Also, I never got a recent backup of the attachments folder. Meaning, that if you attached a file to the forum in the last 2 months, it was lost. If you made a post with an attachment, could you reupload it to your posts?

Thanks everyone for bearing with me!!!
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Post by: Steve Joblin on December 30, 2007, 02:13:32 PM
is it me or does the forum have a totally new look and feel suddenly?
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Post by: Admin on December 30, 2007, 04:06:54 PM
oops sorry about that. It works now right?

I overwrote some files when I added youtube, and apparently I overwrote a 'use custom theme' setting in the process . . .

Let me know if anything else doesn't work or breaks later on . . .
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Post by: Admin on December 30, 2007, 04:10:13 PM
Oh and for the coders out there that want to browse the web and help me figure out the problems I am having, check here:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=213862.msg1362706#msg1362706
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Post by: Steve Joblin on December 30, 2007, 04:17:58 PM
Thanks Admin... looking good now... thought I was going crazy there for a second!
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Post by: Admin on December 30, 2007, 08:20:07 PM
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Thanks Admin... looking good now... thought I was going crazy there for a second!
yea i didn't catch it because for some reason the admin account can see a different theme, and for some reason my theme wasn't changed . . .


Ok so I got some good news and some bad news about the Members Tutorials (http://www.societyofrobots.com/member_tutorials/). The good news is that I got it back up and running with zero data lost (hurray!). Bad news is that I hadn't backed up the uploaded files (pics and source code) in a long time, so many of those got lost.

If you wrote a tutorial, can you please please please check it to make sure all files are there! (and of course make any fixes). Also, let me know if anything odd happens or doesn't work because I might not have got all the files set properly . . .

I also figured out why I wasn't getting emails. It was a combination of not setting up the return address correctly, and the strange unchecking of the 'Notify me of replies' box when I ported the forum . . .

Lastly, I've learned a lesson from this. Don't trust my host is one of them. The other is that weekly backups isn't often enough, and its annoying to do. Anyone know a program that can be scheduled to back up my entire site onto my laptop automatically? This includes MySQL exports . . .
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Post by: HDL_CinC_Dragon on December 30, 2007, 08:56:08 PM
You could write a simple batch file that copies entire folders to a pre-determined destination and just have your computer run that batch file every 12 or 24 hours... or even every 6 hours O_O lol
Title: Re: Yay! The forum is back online again!
Post by: Admin on December 30, 2007, 09:09:44 PM
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You could write a simple batch file that copies entire folders to a pre-determined destination
You confuse me for a skilled programmer :P

I haven't a clue on how to get a batch file to ftp files and export MySQL databases . . . was hoping there is a program to just do it all for me . . . know a good tutorial to read up on?

(yea I know, I do lots of web and embedded programming, but it takes me 10x longer than the average person to figure it all out ;D)
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Post by: HDL_CinC_Dragon on December 30, 2007, 10:46:42 PM
well a batch file is a simple file that executes commands into the DOS prompt. You would have to tell it to copy each individual file or folder to whatever destination you want. But thats assuming youve got a direct network connection to the drive that the files are on :-\
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Post by: paulstreats on December 31, 2007, 08:24:37 AM
a little difference ive noticed that is probably at the very bottom of the list is that pictures and links dont open in a new window like they used to

EDIT

Sorry, links do open in a new window, but the links to pictures dont (did they ever?)
Title: Re: Yay! The forum is back online again!
Post by: Admin on December 31, 2007, 08:29:14 AM
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Sorry, links do open in a new window, but the links to pictures dont (did they ever?)
are you referring to image attachments?

or just external links?
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Post by: paulstreats on December 31, 2007, 08:46:17 AM
the image attatchments below the images.

Ive just realised why too, its because it downloads the image and my browser opens it from this computer but it reuses the browser window.

Sorry
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Post by: fr4ncium on December 31, 2007, 03:36:05 PM
Thanks admin!  If I knew anything about webservers, databases or forums I would offer my help; alas, I do not.

However, if you would like help programming a killer robot to send to your former web-host, I will gladly lend my skills.  What was the name of that company anyway?
Title: Re: Yay! The forum is back online again!
Post by: Admin on January 01, 2008, 09:59:16 AM
good news!

I convinced my host (lunarpages) to let me have access to their old backup files (they almost charged me).

As such, I now updated all the member tutorial files so that all works now, plus I got all the file attachments for the forum.

SoR is now ~98% operational. :)
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Post by: HDL_CinC_Dragon on January 01, 2008, 07:23:05 PM
awesome! Thats great news!

About the backing up files automatically: Im guessing you dont have a network link to the servers hard drive(s)? If not then a batch file is out of the question. But, I might be able to write a java application that automatically downloads the files from the internet location and stores them wherever you want. That is of course after a little bit of research. I havnt written a java program that accesses the net yet... :D
Title: Re: Yay! The forum is back online again!
Post by: Admin on January 01, 2008, 08:12:43 PM
ok so bad news again . . .

there is this wierd file corruption thing going on with members tutorials . . . i would go to certain admin links (without even changing anything) and the whole thing will just die until I reuploaded the database backup.

not sure why . . . anyway, it will be down until i figure that out . . .

and i still haven't fully fixed the forum . . . lots of hidden bugs i need to sort out still

 :(  <= he lost all his hair
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Post by: cooldog on January 01, 2008, 08:15:44 PM
admin any chance of extending the contest till it is all fix to work on the tutorilals

just asking ;D
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Post by: airman00 on January 01, 2008, 08:19:21 PM
;D   -- he lost all his hair also , lol
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Post by: cooldog on January 03, 2008, 11:00:29 AM
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Thanks Admin... looking good now... thought I was going crazy there for a second!
yea i didn't catch it because for some reason the admin account can see a different theme, and for some reason my theme wasn't changed . . .


Ok so I got some good news and some bad news about the Members Tutorials (http://www.societyofrobots.com/member_tutorials/). The good news is that I got it back up and running with zero data lost (hurray!). Bad news is that I hadn't backed up the uploaded files (pics and source code) in a long time, so many of those got lost.

If you wrote a tutorial, can you please please please check it to make sure all files are there! (and of course make any fixes). Also, let me know if anything odd happens or doesn't work because I might not have got all the files set properly . . .

I also figured out why I wasn't getting emails. It was a combination of not setting up the return address correctly, and the strange unchecking of the 'Notify me of replies' box when I ported the forum . . .

Lastly, I've learned a lesson from this. Don't trust my host is one of them. The other is that weekly backups isn't often enough, and its annoying to do. Anyone know a program that can be scheduled to back up my entire site onto my laptop automatically? This includes MySQL exports . . .


try this

http://www.instructables.com/id/Backup-your-server/
Title: Re: Yay! The forum is back online again!
Post by: krich on January 03, 2008, 06:10:27 PM
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You could write a simple batch file that copies entire folders to a pre-determined destination
You confuse me for a skilled programmer :P

I haven't a clue on how to get a batch file to ftp files and export MySQL databases . . . was hoping there is a program to just do it all for me . . . know a good tutorial to read up on?

(yea I know, I do lots of web and embedded programming, but it takes me 10x longer than the average person to figure it all out ;D)

I've got some experience with websites that use MySQL and PHP and how to get your stuff backed up.  There's probably not one program out there that will do it all because all hosts have differences.  A script could be developed to run on your laptop using the scheduled tasks.  The script would do a recursive FTP download of your website files and a mysqldump of all your databases.  That's just the basics.  If you have more than FTP to work with at your host, much more could be done to make it a simple restore in the event of an outage.

IM me if you are interested.

Ken.
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Post by: paulstreats on January 03, 2008, 06:21:15 PM
the java idea that hdl_cinc_dragon proposed is easy to do, there are many custom java packages for ftp etc. You can also use it to send php commands (through html) to the mysql database for retrieving, it just depends wether the host systems will let you send commands to retrieve full entry lists so the application knows what it is supposed to get.

I use java applications to communicate with my perl based custom databases so the people I have made shopping sites for have an application that auto retrieves orders and then prints them off directly (if only it could actually send out the products)
Title: Re: Yay! The forum is back online again!
Post by: Admin on January 06, 2008, 12:47:58 PM
I figure I'll give you guys an update on my hair pulling . . .

So I spent another 5 hours yesterday and 2 more today. I think I finally got the member tutorials working.

Feel free to try and test it out now.

It still has this bug I'm trying to figure out, causing the word 'Array' to appear at the top left of every page. I suspect its a theme update problem, so I just need to manually look at the code line-for-line and see whats up . . .

I still haven't figured out how to get the bugs out of the forum, and apparently other SMF forum owners have reported the same bugs.


As for the auto-backup stuff . . . I use Plesk to access everything, and my web coding ability is enough to get by but not much more.

Can you guys send me an example script that accesses a DB for backup? The forum is huge, and so if it does the MySQL gzip option even better.
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Post by: cooldog on January 09, 2008, 08:52:30 PM
your image link doesn't work

http://www.societyofrobots.com/images/
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Post by: airman00 on January 11, 2008, 01:04:49 PM
When you edit a member page in the member tutorials , you see HTML code, not like how it was before.
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Post by: Admin on January 11, 2008, 09:52:53 PM
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When you edit a member page in the member tutorials , you see HTML code, not like how it was before.
bbblaaahhhhhhhh

I just spent two hours on this trying to figure it out . . . apparently the wysiwyg editor isn't working but reinstalling it isn't fixing it . . . no luck :(

Its gonna take awhile . . . I might have to delay the contest now :-\
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Post by: airman00 on January 12, 2008, 04:48:09 PM
I'll just wait till its done.


Keep up the good work admin
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Post by: Admin on January 15, 2008, 09:16:13 AM
good news, dunk figured out what was causing the problem with the wysiwyg editor for the member tutorials.

the bad news is that it will take about ~2 hours of coding to fix . . . so it should be fixed by this weekend hopefully.
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Post by: airman00 on January 15, 2008, 10:05:39 AM
ok cool

ill just work on the robot itself then
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Post by: Admin on January 20, 2008, 07:39:39 PM
Ok I mostly fixed the wysiwyg editor in member tutorials. It should work now.

There is still a problem with the css file, but I'm too lazy to go through like 10 pages of css . . . anyway that file only determines look and feel, which is good enough for now . . .

Let me know if you find any further problems.

As an update on the forum . . . still can't figure it out! blaaaaahhhh.
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Post by: Dr_Worm on January 20, 2008, 07:59:21 PM
I'm not entirely sure where I'm going with this but did your old css page use to validate? When I tried to validate the CSS page through W3 I got a couple of errors.
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Post by: Admin on January 20, 2008, 08:06:22 PM
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I'm not entirely sure where I'm going with this but did your old css page use to validate? When I tried to validate the CSS page through W3 I got a couple of errors.
hmmm i quickly threw in some code without trying to debug it . . . thats probably what happened . . . it will take several hours to figure it all out so i'd rather just write robot tutorials for now . . . i haven't written one in like a month!
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Post by: izaktj on January 23, 2008, 03:22:29 PM
Don't worry admin! you are the best  ;)
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Post by: Admin on January 27, 2008, 09:02:11 PM
youtube vids do not seem to be working with the member tutorials . . . i spent an hour trying to fix it but no luck . . . ill keep looking into it . . .