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Title: Google Chrome OS
Post by: Admin on July 08, 2009, 10:18:31 AM
Apparently Google is releasing an OS, with "speed, simplicity and security" as priority:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/technology/companies/08operate.htm?_r=2 (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/08/technology/companies/08operate.htm?_r=2)
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html)

What does this have to do with robots? Well, robots often use small laptops:
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The software, called the Google Chrome Operating System, is initially intended for use in the tiny, low-cost portable computers known as netbooks
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The Chrome OS will run on both x86 and ARM architectures, uses a Linux kernel with a new windowing system.

I guess Linux will have competition in this area!
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: GearMotion on July 08, 2009, 10:55:40 AM
I guess Linux will have competition in this area!

Right - nobody will ever buy free software ever again! :P
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: Admin on July 08, 2009, 11:06:00 AM
I guess Linux will have competition in this area!

Right - nobody will ever buy free software ever again! :P

Thats not quite what I meant . . . if a company cannot compete in price, it should compete in product quality. ;D
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: kpmcgurk on July 08, 2009, 11:08:14 AM
well chrome OS will be open source also... I am looking forward to this now the question, do I buy windows 7 this fall or wait for Chrome OS ahhh!?
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: GearMotion on July 08, 2009, 11:13:30 AM
I guess Linux will have competition in this area!

Right - nobody will ever buy free software ever again! :P

Thats not quite what I meant . . . if a company cannot compete in price, it should compete in product quality. ;D

I didn't expect that wrinkle: I meant for my comment to be awash in irony. My sense of humor is rather dry.

 
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: Asellith on July 08, 2009, 11:49:28 AM
 
Quote from: Admin
I guess Linux will have competition in this area!

If google OS runs on a similar platform to android then it is linux based I think. At least at the kernal level. In any case where do I sign up for the beta?
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: GearMotion on July 08, 2009, 12:21:53 PM
Quote from: Admin
I guess Linux will have competition in this area!

If google OS runs on a similar platform to android then it is linux based I think. At least at the kernal level. In any case where do I sign up for the beta?

Apparently GoogleOS uses a Linux kernel.
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: thesa1nt01 on July 08, 2009, 09:07:45 PM
This is all fine and good but in my opinon as a network administrator (and don't get me wrong, I LOVE Google), is that there are soooo many behind the scenes things in Windows (don't know about Mac, and even though it's linux that doesn't mean it'll be taken advantage of) that I'm pretty sure that Chrome is far off from being a mature operating system, at least from an enterprise perspective.
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: Asellith on July 09, 2009, 05:39:15 AM
I think the target for Chrome is not enterprise but more like netbooks and laptops. I don't think they will be charging for chrome so makes sense that they wouldn't put much effort into enterprise stuff anyway.
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: jamort on July 09, 2009, 05:56:15 AM
yeah but the way that linux people earn there money is charging for tech support.... trust me my brothers a developer :P
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: Admin on July 09, 2009, 10:05:27 AM
yeah but the way that linux people earn there money is charging for tech support.... trust me my brothers a developer :P
A motivational reason to never make Linux as user friendly :P
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: thesa1nt01 on July 09, 2009, 11:30:41 AM
But judging from google dropping the beta on gmail and docs and charging $50 per user per year I'm sure they are thinking in the enterprise direction.
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: Weird Fishes on July 09, 2009, 03:30:23 PM
Google chrome OS is not meant for desktops, or even laptops... It's targeted at netbooks, and seems that it will run all (or most) of it's programs from the web... this is not your primary OS, for sure.

I was excited about this, until I read that it was for netbooks (pretty much exclusively), and I really don't care much about those (except for the ones that are robots :)), so now I don't care very much.
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: kpmcgurk on July 09, 2009, 05:23:09 PM
This is quoted from googles blog...

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that will initially be targeted at netbooks

What they are saying here is that "at first" the OS will be targeted at netbooks, but then later they will move on to bigger and better things.
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: jamort on July 09, 2009, 06:35:41 PM
yeah but the way that linux people earn there money is charging for tech support.... trust me my brothers a developer :P
A motivational reason to never make Linux as user friendly :P
I've actually found that linux can be user friendly... but if you dont have a high speed connection definately dont use it.... I am probably getting an unbugged version though were my brother is who I get mine from and I dont download from his site he sends me a CD...
other hand there is a lot that goes into developing an OS so you got to find money somewhere
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: paulstreats on July 09, 2009, 06:36:16 PM
I was to understand that it was aimed purely at the internet generation. Google isnt too interested in making a full OS at the minute that caters for everything.

Their entire portfolio of software currently works over the net so this is what they are going to produce. (imagine an OS integrated with stuff like google earth, links and icons and text in files having a direct connection to the search engine).

(its quite scary really, having their own OS and systems like google earth running integrated would allow them to track everybodies physical locations ::))
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: Weird Fishes on July 09, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
This is quoted from googles blog...

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that will initially be targeted at netbooks

What they are saying here is that "at first" the OS will be targeted at netbooks, but then later they will move on to bigger and better things.

It will never be a desktop OS. Read the whole thing, it is targeted at the web. Would you want a desktop where all your apps ran on the net? I wouldn't. Chrome OS is an expansion to the chrome browser... that right there says a lot.

If you want a linux kernel based OS, there are plenty. If you want a user friendly one, try Ubuntu. Ubuntu is for desktops. Chrome OS is for MID's (Mobile Internet Devices).
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: paulstreats on July 10, 2009, 03:46:48 PM
something else to realise is the current burst the industry are putting into "cloud" computing, where applications run on a remote server(supercomputer network). Even high end games are being explored on the cloud platforms. Many people think that these days with our internet speed then a game can run and be processed on remote servers that just send graphics and sound back over the internet connection.

I would think that google are more interested in getting a step ahead with cloud comuting than developing a full OS
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: madchimp on July 11, 2009, 01:53:22 PM
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The Chrome OS will run on both x86 and ARM architectures, uses a Linux kernel with a new windowing system.

I guess Linux will have competition in this area!

Sounds to me like it is linux.

For an OS that is web based to make sense you have to forget computers as we know them now. The real draw for a web based OS would be portability. Think of what most people use their computers for. A very large share simply do email browse the web and do simple word documents and such. Doesn't take much power to do and a lot of peoples home computers are way more than what they need for what they do. Now if you were using a web based OS you could pretty much sit down at any computer and have access to all of your documents and in fact your OS so any computer would be instantly useful so long as it had a decent connection to the web. As far as linux being user friendly, there are plenty of distros that are. In fact the latest version of Ubuntu was less hassle to install on my computer than windows since Ubuntu recognized all my hardware and installed the correct drivers. I set it up to dual boot windows and linux but have only went back to windows twice and that was just to get email addresses and that was over a year ago.
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: Admin on June 02, 2010, 09:30:40 AM
Its been a year but . . .

http://www.slashgear.com/google-chrome-os-confirmed-for-late-fall-2010-0287952/ (http://www.slashgear.com/google-chrome-os-confirmed-for-late-fall-2010-0287952/)

I curious if this will become the best OS for small netbook controlled robots . . . I really like the Chrome browser so I have hopes they can pull it off.
Title: Re: Google Chrome OS
Post by: Anoroc on June 02, 2010, 01:56:56 PM
I actually use my netbook daily, but mostly for tooling around on the web / email... ChromeOS is the first step in true cloud computing -- Where applications are mostly run via the web and not stored locally. I think, for light computer users, this will be an awesome choice. It should drop the cost in machines. I think the cheapest Windows single users lic is like $50 where this should be free :)