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Electronics => Electronics => Topic started by: cyborgemu on April 09, 2010, 10:58:13 AM

Title: Two-Transistor Oscillator
Post by: cyborgemu on April 09, 2010, 10:58:13 AM
I'm trying to integrate an oscillator into a circuit powered by a 4V, 100uA PV cell.  I built the right hand circuit here (http://www.discovercircuits.com/DJ-Circuits/OSC4.htm), which claims to draw only 1uA.  But it caused the circuit voltage to drop to 0.5V, obviously pulling far more than 1uA.  Why might this be?  I triple-checked the circuit: no short circuits or crossed leads.  Is there a reason why using a PV cell as power source would affect this?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Two-Transistor Oscillator
Post by: waltr on April 09, 2010, 01:56:04 PM
Did you actually measure the current of that circuit to see if the claim is true?

PV specs are at two extremes:
100uA shorted, ~0 Ohm, ~zero V
4V open, infinite Ohm, zero current
They don't do both under the same conditions.
Title: Re: Two-Transistor Oscillator
Post by: Soeren on April 09, 2010, 01:57:23 PM
Hi,

The current drain of 1µA is the average drain of the circuit.
A capacitor over the oscillators supply terminals is needed in your case.

The formula for capacitance is:
C = As/V [Farad]
Where:
 A = Ampere
 s = seconds
 V = voltage drop allowed


If we assume each pulse is eg. 1ms in the 500ms period, the current drain will be:
  500ms/1ms*1µA = 500µA.

500µA in 1ms assuming an allowed voltage drop of 0.5V, will take a capacitor of:
 0.0005 x 0.001 / 0.5 = 1µF

A tantalum capacitor will be best, since it has lower ESR than an electrolyte. You might need a bit higher value than calculated, as they have a large tolerance on the marked capacity.