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Offline Tsukubadaisei

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #90 on: August 09, 2007, 02:52:20 AM »
For the pain algorithm: subarashii (marvelous). I think you should write a thesis about it. It is very original. Actually it is the first time I have ever heard of a robot that can feels pain (I know that there are robots that can aknowledge problems in their structure though). You should stop posting here, write some serious documentation (and publish it),put her in the car and search for real support. You can get rich.
But there is something that is bugging me very much. How are you going to fix her silicon arm now? I know that the same company you bought your body sells some sort of stuff for repairing the skin but your cut is very long and deep, it is impossible to fix something like that. When you said you would be getting a custom body, I though you asked them to make it easier to open a hole like putting some sort of button or zipper and leave some empty spaces so that you can put the parts inside.
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #91 on: August 09, 2007, 08:22:44 AM »
>For the pain algorithm: subarashii (marvelous). I think you should write a thesis about it. It is very original. Actually it is the first time I have ever heard of a robot that can feels pain (I know that there are robots that can aknowledge problems in their structure though). You should stop posting here, write some serious documentation (and publish it),put her in the car and search for real support. You can get rich.

Some people are meant to be rich, but I am not one of them.  :(The idea of a mechanical arm to feel pain is really for human. We human move our arm using the muscle contraction and expansion. We feel pain or touch sensation by our nerve sensor which send signal to our brain. Aiko arm has "optical nerve" which can in "theory" can be attached to human tissue, thus any human who has lost his arm can now
pick up simple object with touch feeling and be able to feel pain sensation again. I sent a short abstract and video demo to the Federal funding, their replay was "You have to be an education institution to get the grant." Well so much for that.
I am still far away of making Artificial nervous sensor the same as human, but one step at a time.


>But there is something that is bugging me very much. How are you going to fix her silicon arm now? I know that the same company you bought your body sells some sort of stuff for repairing the skin but your cut is very long and deep, it is impossible to fix something like that.

Well, I just use transparent expoxy glue, and I screw the silicone where the joint move the most. For now it seems to hold, but I don:t know how well it will stay like that after a few months.
Otherwise, I have to send it back to re-sealed.

When you said you would be getting a custom body, I though you asked them to make it easier to open a hole like putting some sort of button or zipper and leave some empty spaces so that you can put the parts inside.

That would cost them too much money and time. So probably they would not do it.
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #92 on: August 09, 2007, 10:17:27 PM »
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Well, I just use transparent expoxy glue, and I screw the silicone where the joint move the most. For now it seems to hold, but I don:t know how well it will stay like that after a few months.

I did some search and visited homepages from sillicon dolls collectors and a few companies also. Silicon is very weak. For example you can move the arm only 45 degrees otherwise it will rip the skin, the same for the legs and so on. I think that screwing the silicon is a bad idea, I am sure it will rip in a few days(or hours or even minutes) when you actually start moving the body. I also have some superglue at home and I advise you to be very carefull with that as well. I checked the information written in the bottle and they say not to use the super glue with quite a lot of polymer products. They say nothing about silicon because it is very unusual way of use superglue, but the glue might be corrosive and "eat" the silicon causing even more damage.
Unfortunately I am not a doll specialist so I don't know the best way to fix silicon, but you could at least try to contact some of those doll collectors (google.jp for ta-bo (たぁ坊), children stay away from this guy's site). I don't know, but this guy seem to be biggest silicon doll collector in the world, it looks like he has a lot of knowledge about them and I think you should contact him and ask for some advise in how to fix the silicon.

I hope you can solve those problems, I would love to see the final result.
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #93 on: August 13, 2007, 09:50:35 AM »
As of today, it seems to hold. The prototype aiko should be OK, but I will eventually give her a new body again.
I will tell the manufacture to make the skin thinner.

There were some mistakes I made. I drilled more holes in the body then I should have.
I will probably ask the company to send me another one with the new spec.

I went to Tabo-san website... yes he is probably one of the biggest collector in the world.
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #94 on: August 13, 2007, 03:16:30 PM »
looking even better.

dude all those people are idiots not sponsoring you, but you will succeed and you will make them sorry.
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #95 on: August 17, 2007, 09:38:45 PM »
hey why does it say "Canadian Android Project" in Robot magazine?

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #96 on: August 27, 2007, 10:02:23 AM »
Hi

I was going to do a demo this weekend, but I want to do something more very late at night.
I accident fried two of my mainboards. I forgot to unplug the main power. DAmnnn... $1000 gone with a blink of a seconds. >:(

Advice from me.
If you have expensive mainboard. Make sure you put in a fuse, or when doing something, make sure the power is unplug.
Always double check it.

I have to replace the board, it probably going to takes two weeks to get to me. :'(
So probably won:t have the full body demo until two weeks from now.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #97 on: August 27, 2007, 10:19:03 AM »
oh my god man. That is horrible!

Im sorry to hear of such a drawback on both the wallet and progress :-\

Dont let anything deter you from your mission though :) That just adds to the fun stories of how you were the first one to create the worlds most awesome android ever.



"And then 2 of the main boards completely fried!!"
*Audience gasps*
"But then I got new ones"
*Audience releases a sigh of relief*


See? Drama :)
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #98 on: September 19, 2007, 01:21:52 AM »
This is just amazing, I never thought there was enough technology to do this kind of robots.
I wonder how does it knew there was a sandwich? I understand basic color recognition but that was just amazing.
I bet in no time you will have tons of companies trying to sponsor your project.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #99 on: October 01, 2007, 12:00:51 AM »
Hi


This is a short 6 minutes video.
A full video demonstration is 45 minutes, but I don't have the time, so 6 minutes it is.
Project Aiko.

It is still a long way to make it perfect, but one step at a time.
Next month I will show how the internal software of Aiko works.
Including Motion Tracing, Ojbect Tracking and recognition. And Face Extraction and Recognition

I still need to make the movenment more smooth. But one step at a time.

Also, Aiko will make her first public appearance at the International Center on Nov 2007.
Aiko will do 45 minutes of Full demonstration.

Thank for reading. ;D

I hope Youtube Work.

[youtube=425,350]yomx7bXMf2U[/youtube]

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #100 on: October 01, 2007, 03:27:27 AM »
It looks beautiful, but perhaps you need to be a bit softer on the engines to reduce jerkyness. Can she stand up ?

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #101 on: October 01, 2007, 05:22:43 AM »
I think it is awsome!
I have a few questions:
1. Are you running Linux? What distro?
2. Computer vision is impressive, what is the base of your computer vision software? Is it available for Linux?
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« Reply #102 on: October 01, 2007, 10:50:14 PM »
Wow, she reads amazingly great!, she respects commas, dots, etc. And the sensors in her bodyr! wow! she really near to human thinking! ;)
Amazing job!
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #103 on: October 02, 2007, 12:20:20 AM »

This is incredible, I have been watching you progress with Aiko and its really amazing to see how the project has come along.

I'm not sure if you have had any progress with Project Aiko walking yet but I was thinking that as a quicker alternative you could program an electric wheelchair which Project Aiko could control so that it has some movement to move away if hurt or to fully rotate if someone is talking behind Aiko and she can rotate to interact with them.

However saying that you have spent that much time/money on this project you probably want to make it fully human (No offence to the disabled) and have it walking.

Really this is incredible, I hope you get the recognition you deserve at the International Centre in November
Good Luck!
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #104 on: October 02, 2007, 06:55:40 AM »
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as a quicker alternative you could program an electric wheelchair which Project Aiko could control so that it has some movement to move
hmmmm I was actually thinking the same thing . . . take baby steps . . .

I noticed that I was able to hear a hum coming from the motors. I believe this is because your motor drivers are operating at too low a frequency, close to human hearing. Try increasing the frequency and see if they get more quite.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #105 on: October 02, 2007, 08:01:34 AM »
Hi

Let's see.
My guess for Aiko to walk will cost about another $9000.
I have to use Seiko Motor which cost about $600 each.
Hopefully, I will find a sponsor soon, so that I can continue
my research and make her walks.

In case you are wondering, Aiko has senors in her whole body,
and both her arms. I am saving money so that I can put the sensors
in her face too.


Since, I have spent so much time taking pictures, I might as well post it up.






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« Reply #106 on: October 02, 2007, 08:33:23 AM »
Hi again.

Yes, I will fix the jerkyness.
I didn:t know the jerkyness until I saw the video.

Yes, some of the function parts can be run on Linux and windows.
I do my testing on window base because my laptop is window base.

Yes, I will make her walk rest assure, I will.
But not until I find another $10,000.
(It will take awhile for me to save that much, my credit card pretty much max out.)

But a wheelchair sound interesting, anyone here know how much a wheel chair cost.

Yes, I agree the frequencey of the motor is anyoying, it wasn:t that bad when I was testing one
at a time, but have them all work at the same time.... arrr... :P

If you have any more questions please do not hesitate to ask.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #107 on: October 02, 2007, 10:28:35 AM »
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But a wheelchair sound interesting, anyone here know how much a wheel chair cost.
If you look around for a bit, you can find a used one from $500-$1000 US.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #108 on: October 06, 2007, 12:12:41 PM »
Dude, how could I not know about this for such a long time! You're like the smartest guy alive or something. I admire your desires to make it so realistic and great job on the reading and math. Those companies are so stupid, because they don't sponsor you. Try asking Bill Gates, lol. :P Good Luck and I hope some smart company comes along that wants to sponsor you.

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« Reply #109 on: October 07, 2007, 10:37:45 PM »
Try asking Bill Gates, lol. :P

No, dont get Microsoft or affiliates of Microsoft involved in any way. They'll steal all your research and stuff and claim its their own just like they did with everything they have now.... :)
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« Reply #110 on: October 08, 2007, 02:42:02 AM »
Try asking Bill Gates, lol. :P

No, dont get Microsoft or affiliates of Microsoft involved in any way. They'll steal all your research and stuff and claim its their own just like they did with everything they have now.... :)
True, they have not had enough by stealing from linux, mac and firefox browser

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #111 on: October 08, 2007, 01:58:15 PM »
What sensors does it use?

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #112 on: October 08, 2007, 03:56:52 PM »
this is absolutely awesome and this is beyond my expertise...

i wonder if how many sensors do you have on "her" face? it seems it can hardly open her mouth too...

if you do have a couple of sensors on "her" face, then might as well use it to show emotions, just like a MAD emotion when someone touches her breast.. or even make her smile or let her feel shy when a male android nears her....


(just a suggestion)
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #113 on: October 09, 2007, 12:19:39 AM »
I didn't know a wheel chair cost that much. I might as well save the money for the real legs.

The sensors I want to put in her face are:
nose, cheek, top of head, and lip.

Programing emotion on the face is not that hard, but the silicone head has some limitation.
Silicone head it is soft, but at the same time it  is rigid (spelling?) it will add too much stress on the motor. Unlesss I use Fubber for the head skin. But that would cost money which I don't have.

At this point, I am way over my budget. I will take the first sponsor that come to me... any amount and any company. :P

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #114 on: October 09, 2007, 06:13:03 AM »
I think you should save for real legs as well. How can an android be an android if it cant walk?
I am curious, does it hurt? The punch in the face.
And about her breasts: are the sensors digital or analog? Is it going to make any difference if you just touch or if you sqeeze her breasts? Finally where is the camera located? Inside her head? If so, what did you do in order to make those eyes transparent?
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #115 on: October 09, 2007, 07:05:26 PM »
You guys are freaking me out with the breast thing... Be mature lol :P

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #116 on: October 09, 2007, 10:01:52 PM »

 Is it going to make any difference if you just touch or if you sqeeze her breasts?


yea, what's the difference if there is a greater force applied?

where are are the other force sensors located? will she feel pain when i am going to bite her finger tips?
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #117 on: October 10, 2007, 09:07:09 AM »
Hi...

Currently there is NO sensor in the face, so punching her in the face would not do anything.
Breasts, it depends how to touch it. lightly will have her says " do not touch...." her hand cover her breast.
touch it in a really wrong way, she slap you. as seen in the video. I have reduce the speed and torque for that.
So no one get hurt.

The senors are analog because it is cheaper with analog than digital.

there is no sensor in the fingers cost too much money to do it there.
But I will eventually do it there.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2007, 01:04:13 AM »

Currently there is NO sensor in the face, so punching her in the face would not do anything.


Hahaha. I dont want to punch her face. I am talking about your face. Did it hurt when she punched you?
先の質問の英語はちょっと難しかったかもしれないがAIBOTの顔について話していた。愛子があなたの顔にパンチを食らわせたとき痛かったですか?
(same question, but in Japanese)
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #119 on: October 24, 2007, 08:19:26 AM »
Hi all.

Yesterday, I change the servo for the elbow. Hopefully, it will not be jerky as previous video.
Fix the word "hamburger"...

Any other words I need to fix...
Let me know.
I will do another quick video demo soon.

Thank

 


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