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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2007, 09:04:12 AM »
Oh ok, what i meant was: what to get to make the robot respond to questions like: whats your name?: my name is Aiko
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2007, 09:15:29 AM »
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Then I went out and get myself a good microphone, which cost about $200.
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Whats wrong with a $20 microphone? Im considering doing sound stuff in the future . . .

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2007, 09:29:31 AM »
"Oh ok, what i meant was: what to get to make the robot respond to questions like: whats your name?: my name is Aiko"

Oh... I know what you mean now.

By using Bio Robot Artificial Intelligence Neural System (aka B.R.A.I.N.S)  software.

Just some fancy name I have given.
BRAINS software control the voice, talking, color, hearing and recogition, including the head movement... etc

Aiko looks for "key word"
Example.
What type of music do you like, aiko?

Aiko will look for key words
what, music you like.

Aiko then process those 4 keywords.
And choose the best possible answers.
It will send the answers to C7 board, the C7 process it and sent output to the speaker and motors to make the mouth move.

(Aiko officially has 13,000 answers, but unofficially 150,000 because of adjectives and adverbs)
Example
I like classical music.
I like classical music very much.
I love classical music.

etc.


I hope that help.




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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2007, 09:38:50 AM »
"Whats wrong with a $20 microphone? Im considering doing sound stuff in the future . . ."


$20 is fine, but you have to stand close to it..

But if you stand far away.... it may not pick up the sound too well.
Also, sometimes you hear static noise.

Where as a good microphone. It sound good when you stand far away.
Also when you stand behind the microphone it can still pick up the sound clearly.

You are correct, I don:t really need the expensive microphone.
But since Aiko is base on voice recognition.... I thought I should at least get a decent microphone.

I got the cheapest microphone from the professional store.
The store has...
from $200 to $3500.
So I got the cheapest one they have which was $200+tax.
(it is a sony microphone.....)

« Last Edit: June 22, 2007, 09:52:15 AM by Ai-bot »

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2007, 09:40:52 AM »

You are correct, I don:t really need the expensive microphone.
But since Aiko is base on voice recognition.... I thought I should at lease get a decent microphone.
Makes sense to me ;D

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2007, 09:53:50 AM »
Hi here is the video....

Sorry, there are a lot cut scenes, due to youtube limit of 10 minutes.
I have to cut some part out.

[youtube=425,350]iCR2PFrLkwA[/youtube]


edit by admin: I fixed the video link. When doing youtube videos, do this:
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[youtube=425,350]iCR2PFrLkwA[/youtube](the random link jumble goes between the brackets)
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2007, 09:59:05 AM »
When do these get on the shelves? I could use someone that can do my math for me lol ;D
Awesome!

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2007, 11:40:43 AM »
Math

It can do simple math to algebra to calculus.
It only knows what I know, except that it can do faster, a lot faster than me.

The only download fall of math recognition.
is...
can not use variable X
because Aiko will get confuse with multiply "3x3"

other than that.... you can write anything.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2007, 12:51:09 PM »
Math

It can do simple math to algebra to calculus.
It only knows what I know, except that it can do faster, a lot faster than me.

The only download fall of math recognition.
is...
can not use variable X
because Aiko will get confuse with multiply "3x3"

other than that.... you can write anything.


Just change your multiplication symbol to * instead of x. Problem fixed.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2007, 01:08:42 PM »
"Just change your multiplication symbol to * instead of x. Problem fixed."


The problem is that when we hand write a math equation on paper.
we write like this
3x3=9
Check your old high school math notebook.


we never hand write math like this.
3*3=9
Not for me anyway.



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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2007, 02:11:24 PM »
"Just change your multiplication symbol to * instead of x. Problem fixed."


The problem is that when we hand write a math equation on paper.
we write like this
3x3=9
Check your old high school math notebook.


we never hand write math like this.
3*3=9
Not for me anyway.




Most programming languages do it with the star (times/multiply) symbol. When you pronounce a math equation, you say "Three TIMES three", and not "Three EX Three".

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2007, 03:39:57 PM »
Maybe you dont, but cant u make Aiko do math like that? You won't loose anything on it anyway!, you will just let aiko do even more math questions (multiply)
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2007, 07:28:31 PM »
"I am not your slave"

I think your robot is broken . . . :P


You should have her ask questions to learn stuff. Its all one sided conversation . . .

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The only download fall of math recognition.
is...
can not use variable X
because Aiko will get confuse with multiply "3x3"
why? if the 'x' is between numbers or () its a simple boolean to know it means multiply, right?

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2007, 11:19:30 PM »
Math problem...
X  and *

if you go out on the street.
You pick an average Joe.

You ask him.
Write 5 times 5.
How would an average JOE write 5 times 5.

He would write on piece on white paper.
5x5

Now Joe give the white paper and ask Aiko to process math.

Aiko will recognize number and convert the number to calculate.

5x5 recognize
now replace "x" with "*"
Internally, Aiko will see it as 5*5


Your average Joe will not write "*" as multiply, because your average Joe writes as "x"
That is why the letter x is reserve letter when processing math.


I hope it make sense.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2007, 11:24:44 PM »
"You should have her ask questions to learn stuff. Its all one sided conversation . . ."


It is still a long way from being the perfect talking android.
But it is a start.

Right now that is the least of my worry.
Right now I am checking out center of gravity and simple taste bud.
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2007, 07:43:50 AM »
Your average Joe will not write "*" as multiply, because your average Joe writes as "x"
That is why the letter x is reserve letter when processing math.


I hope it make sense.

It's a nonexistent problem. We've already suggested several ways to fix it, and if you're really concerned with written character recognition, then what you need is context-sensitivity, as the admin suggested... This is like saying that you can never use * in C++ math expressions because it's reserved for pointers declarations... Obviously the compiler has a way of telling which is which.

I don't mean to offend you Mr "I don't comment my code or plan anything ahead because I'm used to working that way", but if this is the kind of kludge you use when designing your robot, then your project won't get very far beyond the average amusing animatronic.

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Right now I am checking out center of gravity and simple taste bud.

Taste buds? Sounds like you've got your priorities well figured out...
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2007, 01:32:21 AM »
People cant you guys understand what Ai-bot really what to do?
He is trying to build a machine that looks like a human, not another machine. In all possible ways.
If he makes his android recognize * as multiplication than she would lost her existence purpose. She would not be different from a standard robot.
Humans use x or . for multiplication. If she is supposed to ack like a human than she must understand maths like humans. The given 'solutions' are not solutions at all.
A.I.(yes those are my initials)

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2007, 05:53:55 AM »
To be fair, a project like this taken on by someone by themselves is absolutely huge

It is crazy. So good.
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2007, 06:49:15 AM »
Hi,

I guess since we are on the subject of skin for robots . . . I have done such a thing before and have pics . . . is there a big demand for a tutorial? Its kind of expensive, like $50 per pound of skin . . .
I would be very interested in what products you used and whether you used something suitable for "body fat" (which I consider very important for the right "look&feel").
I'm working (in a steady slow pace ;)) on a head, which is to be fully articulated and the rubber "mask" I have so far, however lifelike, is not really stretchy enough in a natural looking way.

I'd like to know of possible sources for it as well, of course :D
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A rather fast and fairly heavy robot with quite large wheels needs what? A lot of power?
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« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2007, 10:24:16 AM »
"People cant you guys understand what Ai-bot really what to do?
He is trying to build a machine that looks like a human, not another machine. In all possible ways."


Yes, you are the first person who really understand what I am really want to do.
For some reasons, I am not good at speaking or with words.
But Tsukubadaisei-san, just summarize my project with one paragraph.

I am not building a robot, I am building a humand android.
Aiko is still a long way from becoming a perfect human, but it is a start.

The senses that human uses every day.

See
Hearing
Taste
Touch
Smell

Aiko
See... yes camera
Hearing... yes microphone
Taste.... not yet... working on it (simple taste only))
Touch.... yes will but inside the body.
Smell.... This will be tricky... The only smell I think is important inside my home is leak gas from the furance or the stove. CO and CH4.
As for smelling food, probably not something I can do by myself.


I will work on a website that will explain in details about project Aiko.



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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2007, 10:27:49 AM »
"I would be very interested in what products you used and whether you used something suitable for "body fat" (which I consider very important for the right "look&feel").




Yes, I have thought about using body fat.
But I have decided to go with silicone because it cost a lot less to maintain, and it is a lot cleaner.
As for rubber, when I touched it, I didn't feel real. Or maybe it is just me.


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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2007, 10:48:04 AM »
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Yes, I have thought about using body fat.
But I have decided to go with silicone because it cost a lot less to maintain, and it is a lot cleaner.
As for rubber, when I touched it, I didn't feel real. Or maybe it is just me.

They make breast implants out of silicone for a reason: because it has the right texture. My only quirk with it is that when they make "skin" out of silicone, it doesn't have the exact right properties, light doesn't go through silicone in the same way it goes through human skin (eg: subsurface scattering).

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2007, 11:34:46 AM »
Why taste? I dont see why a robot needs that sense if it doesnt eat stuff . . . And smell isnt really that useful for the same reason . . . I'd worry more about sense of balance for an android ;D

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it doesn't have the exact right properties, light doesn't go through silicone in the same way it goes through human skin (eg: subsurface scattering).
Cant you just put makeup on it? I believe thats what most android creators do, anyways . . . I use a silicone based rubber for my stuff cause its the strongest and yet also most flexible.

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« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2007, 12:20:26 PM »
Why taste? I dont see why a robot needs that sense if it doesnt eat stuff . . . And smell isnt really that useful for the same reason . . . I'd worry more about sense of balance for an android ;D

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it doesn't have the exact right properties, light doesn't go through silicone in the same way it goes through human skin (eg: subsurface scattering).
Cant you just put makeup on it? I believe thats what most android creators do, anyways . . . I use a silicone based rubber for my stuff cause its the strongest and yet also most flexible.

Makeup might help to some degree, but I still don't think it will be "just right". That being said, having an android that moves smoothly should be a more important factor in whether people perceive it as realistic or not.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2007, 01:04:02 PM »
Hi,

They make breast implants out of silicone for a reason: because it has the right texture.
Breast implants are not solid, but made as a "shell" containing a high viscosity liquid (both parts silicone based). Texture doesn't really matter in an implant, since they are... well, implanted ;)
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2007, 03:48:25 PM »
Hi,

They make breast implants out of silicone for a reason: because it has the right texture.
Breast implants are not solid, but made as a "shell" containing a high viscosity liquid (both parts silicone based). Texture doesn't really matter in an implant, since they are... well, implanted ;)


AFAIK, silicone implants are often preffered to saline water implants because of the more natural feel, aka texture. Nowadays they also make them out of cellulose it seems.

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2007, 04:38:01 PM »
Im disturbed by the direction this thread has taken . . .

I dont think texture matters here unless one of you wants to grope your robot . . . and thats your business :P

One major issue I've had with skin that most of you are missing is resistance force. Look at Aiko when it talks, the mouth hardly moves! This is because the rubber stretching is actually a huge force resistance on the servos. One major reason I moved to silicone is because it stretches much futher with much less force . . .

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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2007, 09:27:06 AM »
"Why taste? I dont see why a robot needs that sense if it doesnt eat stuff . . . And smell isnt really that useful for the same reason . . . I'd worry more about sense of balance for an android"


Actually, Aiko doesn:t really need taste bud or sense of smell.
The only reason I am even consider it, because it is a challenge.

Right now I more worry about packing things up, since I am moving end of June.
Once I move to my new place, the first thing I will do is clean up my data base.
(I have been saying that for the last 2 years, but I keep saying tomorrow....but tomorrow never come)

After I settle down, I will see how much I have left in my credit cards and see what hardware I can add to Aiko.
Sensors are not cheap.
I also need to sit down and calculate how much Aiko cost me already to build.
At the rate I am going, I will go bankrupt before the project even finish.... ???



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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2007, 11:53:39 AM »
You should definitely put some efford in finding a sponsor if you feel your running out of money. But at the movie i saw on Youtube you had only Aikos head, i haven't read through the last posts on this topic but have you began on her body?
It should be easy to find a sponsor if Aikos a good project and can compete in different competitions, maybe moneys involved.
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Re: My Female Android Robot Project Update.
« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2007, 07:53:01 AM »
Hi all

I know there are still a lot of works to do for Aiko.
That is why I like to post on the forum, to get your inputs and suggestions.

In case, you are wondering what is project Aiko?
I have written a short abstract... hopefully it make more sense now what I am trying to achieve with Project Aiko.


What is Project-Aiko?

Here at Project Aiko, we are trying to design an artificial intelligence neural network system which uses both dynamic software and hardware linked together to mimic some human behaviour.

By using our custom designed artificial intelligence software named the Bio Robot Artificial Intelligence Neural System (a.k.a. B.R.A.I.N.S.) together with our custom designed shell which is a facsimile of the human female body, we have created what we believe to be a uniquely designed android (a.k.a. Aiko).

Aiko?s head and body were made from silicone, which gives the body a more natural look and feel of a human figure. Aiko has the ability to have a conversation with you (13,000+ sentences), including the ability to learn new things. Aiko can read books, newspapers, including the ability to solve math problems. In additional, she can recognize colour, faces and simple objects.

In the future, we hope to be able to implement advanced functionality such as being able to distinguish between two different drinks and then being able to bring it to you. Other functionality would be an ability to massage your shoulders and neck, having Aiko tell you to bring an umbrella when it rains or wear warmer clothes when it is cold outside. That and much more is planned.

Our approach to this project is to have things be modular which gives us the ability to add more functionality and sub-systems in the future as permitted by our resources, such as a taste bud and breathing system.

Sincerely,
Le  ;D

 


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