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Offline claesson92Topic starter

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How strong are servos?
« on: October 31, 2007, 06:08:52 PM »
If i buy the servos in the 50$ robot tutorial, or some servos in that pricerange. How heavy can the robot be? But still moving in a reasonable speed? (With the batteries as in the tutorial)
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Re: How strong are servos?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2007, 06:12:09 PM »
Plan on the robot being able to carry its batteries, the electronics, the servos, the robot body, and maybe a few ounces... that is about it.  Let's put it this way... it can carry a barbie doll, but not a brick :)

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Re: How strong are servos?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2007, 07:30:04 PM »
you can calculate how much weight it can carry with it's torque rating

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Re: How strong are servos?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 07:50:31 AM »
Much depends on the size of the wheels.

Large wheels -> Faster but weaker
Small wheels -> Slower but stronger

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But still moving in a reasonable speed?

Guess you figured this out already :P
« Last Edit: November 01, 2007, 07:53:04 AM by Fredrik Andersson »
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Re: How strong are servos?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2007, 11:10:39 AM »

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Re: How strong are servos?
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2007, 05:56:09 AM »
Feel free to calculate it ;D
http://www.societyofrobots.com/RMF_calculator.shtml


That calculator seems to ignore rolling friction, which I think on carpet is pretty significant. In fact that's the only hard part that you'd want a calculator to work out for you. Looks like that's just using F=ma and the odd equation of motion which anyone can do by hand anyway and doesn't tell you much.


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Re: How strong are servos?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2007, 07:45:29 AM »
This is the equation (no, its not F=ma):
torque*rpm=mass*(acceleration+gravity*sin(angle*PI/180))*velocity*(1/efficiency)/(2*PI)/(#_wheels)

Unfortunately no equation can accurately approximate friction - meaning, it requires measured experiments. Of course, you can approximate it by normal_force*coef_friction, but in reality thats a very rough approximation. And seriously, whats the coefficient of friction between your foam wheels and a persian rug? Or a tile floor? There is no data for this . . . And friction is also dependent on both speed and acceleration.

The only way to know friction is to already have your robot built and tested, which defeats the point of the equation - to design before building.

Sooooo this is why I have efficiency in the equation, to estimate. Friction on the ground only accounts for a percentage of losses, while you also have gear train losses, aerodynamic losses, etc.

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Re: How strong are servos?
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2007, 09:40:07 AM »
Oh, that's your site? Hope I didn't sound a bit harsh  ;)

A load of data with interpolating functions would be amazing for most robot builders. People actually want to know how much load their robot can carry and how fast it will go. Simple physics doesn't even approximate that. That's what I thought it was when I saw the link and was dissapointed.


 


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