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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2008, 11:36:06 AM »
Will a wire of 100 m be suitable for this circuit???? ???

what gauge ( thickness) ?
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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2008, 10:07:24 PM »
Hmmm 18

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2008, 12:19:29 AM »
I have obtained a transmitter and receiver schematic . I think it also includes a base station. Are the schematics alright? Also what inductor and capacitor values should I use for the receiver part? (to obtain a better resolution right click on image and select view image)



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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2008, 09:09:57 AM »
Any ideas for the above circuit please?

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2008, 09:33:10 AM »
Your circuits require a more complex AC analog analysis, which is beyond the skills of even most electrical engineers.

Assuming you followed the datasheets correctly, just bread-board it up and see what happens. The other option would be using a simulator.

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2008, 09:42:34 AM »
Which simulator can I use please?

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2008, 09:52:51 AM »
You forgot to search ;)

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2008, 10:02:35 AM »
Thanks Admin :)

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2008, 03:09:21 PM »
I've been thinking about building a similar robot, though not for lawn mowing but for pushing a broom around a large gym. Because I know nothing about robotics I was trying to think of a simple way to do this.

Would it be possible to guide the robot all over the lawn/gym once and the next time it could just follow this pattern from memory? Would that be simpler or am I just naive?
How difficult would it be for a beginner to build a robot like this? what might it cost?

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2008, 06:11:11 PM »
Does anyone here read ROBOT magazine? This months issue had a short article about a guy who built and is trying to sell a RC lawn mower.
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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2008, 11:29:19 PM »
Err so far Have tested the motors and the driver board and it's working. Hmm how can I make a front bumper sensor using two microswitches??

Spoil9 do you have the article?
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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2008, 11:49:01 PM »
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Hmm how can I make a front bumper sensor using two microswitches??

Not the best of my tutorials, but its all here on SoR ;D
http://www.societyofrobots.com/sensors_tactbumpswitch.shtml

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2008, 09:44:46 PM »
Thanks Admin. How do I do the mechanical part of the bumper?

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2008, 09:55:31 PM »
What do you mean?

Just buy a microswitch, use the screw hole to attach to your robot chassis, then tape a chopstick or some stiff wire to the switch part. :P

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2008, 12:29:36 AM »
Great Thanks Admin  ;D

I'm having trouble justifying the use of a dc motor for the mowing system? And how do I prove that I need a motor of a particular capacity?


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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2008, 05:31:06 AM »
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how do I prove that I need a motor of a particular capacity?

http://www.societyofrobots.com/RMF_calculator.shtml

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2008, 07:18:09 AM »
Can I use that calculator to calculate the dc motor I need to cut the grass?

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2008, 07:53:44 AM »
Nope . . .

That involves some dynamics calculations.

Also, to calculate, you'd have to know the torque required to cut grass (I doubt a google search will answer that!)

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2008, 06:14:52 PM »
Ryan,
Sorry I can't find the article on line anywhere but it does not describe how he built anything other than saying he's using a 4 channel receiver that is wired into a MCU that controls 2 separate motor controllers and all that is under a steel box to protect it from the elements.
Like I said, nothing fancy, but thought I'd throw it out there.
What you're doing seems to be much better a design though so keep up the work. Sounds like you're making good progress.
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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2008, 12:29:42 AM »
To Admin:
Yep i did some search no results..lol


To Spoil9:
It's ok yep they'll not reveal everything in the magazine. Thanks for your encouragements
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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2008, 11:43:46 PM »
The power regulation schematic is it applicable to a 12 V sealed lead acid battery?

Admin can you please help me with a mechanical engineering reason why the wheels on the picture provides more traction?

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2008, 09:19:23 PM »
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The power regulation schematic is it applicable to a 12 V sealed lead acid battery?
Yeap, but don't regulate voltage to the motors, just microcontroller.

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Admin can you please help me with a mechanical engineering reason why the wheels on the picture provides more traction?
Those spokes dig into the ground, almost meshing as if the ground was a linear gear.

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2008, 10:31:59 AM »
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Those spokes dig into the ground, almost meshing as if the ground was a linear gear.

Thanks a lot admin. Err is there a way to justify it in terms of mechanical formula etc??

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2008, 05:17:16 AM »
Yeap there is . . . but too lazy to go into theory :P

Basically, the friction and force angle to the surface changes. If you draw a FBD, it'll become more obvious.

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2008, 03:06:58 AM »
Can you help me a bit more please Admin? What do I have to prove? That the friction increases with this type of wheel than with a regular wheel?

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2008, 03:20:55 AM »
Why do you need to calculate friction? I don't understand your last 3 questions . . .

If you want to calculate it, or anything mechanical, you *must* draw an FBD as the first step. I'm not going to do it for you :P

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2008, 03:35:42 AM »
What's an FBD?

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2008, 04:09:20 AM »
madchimp, there is a link to a definition just a few posts up ;)
(and always use Google/search first!)

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2008, 10:00:55 PM »
I got this from wikipedia

Traction refers to the friction between a drive member and the surface it moves upon, where the friction is used to provide motion

That's why I was referring to friction  ???

Ok I'll try the FBD though I'm not sure how to prove it

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Re: Request Robotic Lawn Mower
« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2008, 08:14:52 PM »
for the under ground fence you could get something like the shock collars they put on dogs so when the dog got over top the wire it would shock him..... also what the yard your cutting would have an influence on it ex. if the yard is square it would be real easy but if theres objects you have to make the robot get around those objects and still cut all the grass.... Also if its a weird shaped yard and you go with burrying fence having several places for it Differn block so it would cut one spot then you would place it in the next and so on so forth until your done....
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