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Mechanics and Construction => Mechanics and Construction => Topic started by: zeelag on November 27, 2010, 07:14:17 PM

Title: how to get a genrator to power self.
Post by: zeelag on November 27, 2010, 07:14:17 PM

 so i been thinking a lot about perpetual motion, magnetism\elector, and statistical current flow of what we call energy.. how i can defy gravity and create a implosion that is to be a trigger for a motor after that trigger hits the motor it will keep on spinning and spinning.. as it spins it will spin a "magnetic" disk... im think just create a iron gear and oxidizing it as the electric-current is going thew water.. than use the hydrogen that is separated as a thermal control over how much the magnet distributed the flux. when that mag-disk spin it will create a another current that current will than be conducted in a coil of copper around it. as the coil collects the magnetic flux it will distribute some energy to continue powering the motor and some to be stored in a rechargeable cell. any ideas.... ???

Title: Re: how to get a genrator to power self.
Post by: Soeren on November 28, 2010, 06:46:11 AM

Hi,

Quote from: zeelag on November 27, 2010, 07:14:17 PM

any ideas.... ???

Yeah, don't waste your time on the impossible... Over unity devices, however nice they would be, are impossible.

Title: Re: how to get a genrator to power self.
Post by: Graynomad on November 28, 2010, 11:57:15 PM

zeelag, you're either taking the p1ss or you're the next Einstein, my money's on the first :).

Title: Re: how to get a genrator to power self.
Post by: madsci1016 on November 29, 2010, 07:49:03 AM

Quote from: Soeren on November 28, 2010, 06:46:11 AM

Yeah, don't waste your time on the impossible... Over unity devices, however nice they would be, are impossible.

Seconded.

Title: Re: how to get a genrator to power self.
Post by: photomark on December 01, 2010, 02:19:52 AM

I had a similar argument with a friend of mine once . he wanted to run his car alternator with the same electric motor he was using to drive the water pump , I just could not get it through to him that it is imposable , he did it anyway and then didn't understand why he had a flat battery after about 1 hour .

Matter and energy MUST come from somewhere 

Title: Re: how to get a genrator to power self.
Post by: Metal Slug 2 on December 01, 2010, 11:34:08 PM

1. There is a finite amount of energy in the universe.
2. There is no such thing as a perfectly closed system, this means there will always be energy lost (not destroyed, but released to the surroundings).

Given these two facts, one, your theoretical system can never create more energy then that which was originally put into it.  And two, at each energy transformation there will inevitably be some loss of energy.